Kelly Wearstler can not practice Interior Design in Florida! If this seems somewhat ridiculous and hard to believe, it is - both. Apparently Kelly was hired to redo the Tides Hotel on South Beach, but - she is not licensed to practice Interior Design in Florida and a cease and desist order was issued to her. Don't believe me? Read her case file below:
Work by Wearstler - not welcomed in Florida.
Maybe Florida is against faux zebra?
Or could it be they are sick of KWID's famous trellis fabric - shown here in a rug? Don't miss the wall made out of stone behind the sofa.
Kelly Wearstler: Case No. 2007-067706
Probable cause was found that Kelly Wearstler, Inc. of Los Angeles, California, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and contracted to provide interior design services on The Tides Hotel on South Beach in Miami. Ms. Wearstler specifically offers interior design services in the contract and is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed and a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist will be issued.
And don't think poor Kelly is alone - she's not. This person, who has been declared by Florida to not be an interior designer, actually DID create this beautiful room below. Juan Montoya, despite being named to Architectural Digest's Top 100 Designers list, had Florida say this of him: "also held himself out as an interior designer..." Well, duh, he IS an interior designer, rather or not he is licensed in Florida. What is going on in Florida?
Room designed by supposed interior designer Juan Montoya
Read the case Florida filed against Juan Montoya, THAT CRIMINAL!!!
Juan Montoya Design Group: Case No. 2004-055870
Probable Cause was found that Juan Montoya of New York, NY is not licensed to practice interior design in the State of Florida and contracted to provide interior design services on a commercial project. Mr. Montoya also held himself out as an interior designer throughout the contract. Further, Mr. Montoya is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist was issued and an Administrative Complaint seeking fines was filed.
More beautiful work by Montoya.
Simply put, the ASID is out of control. For the past thirty years, they have been actively lobbying for state regulation of interior designers all over the country and it is rumored they have spent over $6,000,000 on their effort. Their goal is twofold - they seek Title Legislation which bans the right to call or advertise yourself as an Interior Designer without state license AND they seek the more draconian measure of Practice Legislation which criminalizes the practicing of interior design without a state license. So far, ASID has been successful in establishing Practice Legislation in four states, of which Florida is one. You can read ASID's side of the argument here:
http://www.asid.org/legislation - that is, if you can stomach their arrogance.
So why does ASID want to regulate the Interior Design industry? They claim it is to protect the public - or as they publicly state: " Professional interior designers are qualified by education, experience and examination to enhance the function, safety and quality of interior spaces to the benefit of the occupants of such spaces." But consider this, in the past 100 years only 52 lawsuits have been filed against interior designers - and these were mostly over contracts, never safety. Because of ASID's forceful lobbying efforts several grass roots organizations have sprung up to challenge their push for state licensing. These groups claim that the ASID is pushing for licensing out a desire to get rid of competition. For example: only 3% of interior designers are members of ASID. ASID does not speak for the overwhelming majority of interior designers who are, undoubtedly against state licensing. Despite ASID's extremely low membership, they have been successful in getting "Title" legislation in many states. This means simply that someone can not advertise or call themselves an interior designer without meeting the strict terms set up by ASID: namely, a 2 to 4 year degreed education, followed by 2 years of apprenticeship spent working for a licensed I.D. (of which there are so few - most students would be unable to find work to satisfy this requirement.) Additionally, you then must pass a 2 day test, which cost upwards of $1,000. This test does not measure in any way a person's taste level or ability to put pleasing colors together or cohesive furniture schemes, or they ability to get along with clients - all important qualifications of successful interior designers. Instead, the test focuses on endless rules and regulations for commercial applications such a fire retardant fabrics and codes, contract language, and administration. Imagine Maria Buatto or Charlotte Moss or Miles Redd or John Salindino or (pick your favorite Interior Designer here) not being able to advertise or work as an interior designer because he is not versed in hospital or daycare fabric or wallpaper or proper placement of accessibility bars? It is important to note that the qualifications for admittance into ASID are exactly the same as is required of state licensing as devised by the ASID. There are grandfathering clauses for the lucky few - and many foes suggest that most of those in the higher ASID ranks do not even qualify under their own rules and regulations but were actually grandfathered into ASID.
Most shocking is this: four states have enacted "practice" licensing - meaning not only can you not advertise or call yourself an interior designer, you can not practice as an interior designer without this license. Florida is one of these states. The sheer arrogance of Florida to declare that Kelly Wearstler or Philip Sides or Juan Montoya are not interior designers is stupefying.
What is being done: after ASID's massive 30 year push for regulation, grass roots efforts are finally having a positive effect. In 2007, ASID lobbied for 24 new bills, none of which were enacted. Even more positive, the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that Alabama's Practice laws (similar to Florida's) were illegal and were to be removed from the books. Notice of this ruling is surprisingly absent from the ASID web site. Interior designers in Alabama are now free to practice their trade without ASID involvement and regulation. Hopefully, the three remaining states with Practice licensing will meet the same fate. Additionally, several governors vetoed title and practice legislation put before them. In Texas - which has a strong title law - a lawsuit has been brought before the state by 4 interior designers who have the backing of The Institute for Justice. The Wall Street Journal published an excellent letter from one of their attorneys, read it here to fully understand the absurdity of the licensing laws. The Interior Designers Protection Council has an great web site where you can further read about efforts to derail ASID's legislation push.
If you are an interior designer or an interior design lover please take a few moments to read what is happening in your state legislature. Protect Phillip Sides' right to practice doing what he does best, despite Florida's attempts to stop the prolific interior designer.

A Philip Sides' dining room.
Toile and checks - my favorite combination by Phillip Sides.
The beautiful Scalamandre Oriental toile as done by Philip Sides. This is one of my favorite toiles - I love the movement of its flower stems. Also - notice the beautiful sconces and matching painted consoles. Beautifully done room for such an amateur without qualifications or licensing. I mean - how could he do this good of work and not have passed a test on contracts?
Read what horrors Sides is accused of by Florida's lawmakers:
Phillip Sides
Phillip & Co.
Case No. 2004-043524
Probable Cause was found that Phillip Sides of Santa Rosa, Florida is not licensed and is offering interior design services in an advertisement in the Southern Accents Magazine. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist was issued, along with the request that Mr. Sides sign an affidavit stating he will refrain from offering interior design services and will change the advertisement deleting any references to interior design or words to that effect. If Mr. Sides fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Philip! You should be ashamed! Imagine calling yourself an interior designer. Now, stop that - you are an interior decorator!!! Got that?? You do not design, you can NOT design - you don't know how - you aren't licensed!!! Shame!!!!
Clive Christian, the famous cabinet maker also ran into trouble with Florida.
Christian, the cabinet maker genius - his cream painted kitchen.
Clive Christian Gulf Coast LLC
Simon T. Ellis
Case Nos. 2006-060591 & 2006-060581
Probable cause was found that Clive Christian Gulf Coast LLC of Estero, Florida is not licensed to practice interior design or architecture in Florida and is offering interior design services in an advertisement in the August 2006 edition of the Florida Magazine. Further, the firm’s web site is offering architectural services. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Ellis sign an affidavit stating he will refrain from offering interior design or architectural services and will change his advertisement and web sites to delete any references to such services. If Mr. Ellis fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
And even Venus Williams the tennis player got in trouble with Florida. Venus? An interior designer?
V Starr Interiors
Case No. 2003-001143
The Florida Board of Architecture and Interior Design announces that on March 20, 2003, probable cause was found to issue a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist against the unlicensed design firm of V Starr Interiors, which is owned by tennis star Venus Williams. V Starr Interiors is located in Palm Beach, Gardens, Florida.
Ms. Williams has a licensed interior designer on staff; however, V Starr Interiors has been operating and offering interior design services since April 2002 without a license for the firm, which is required under Florida law. After being notified of the investigation, the firm has begun the process of obtaining a license.
After reviewing the evidence, the Board found probable cause to issue a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist and will require Ms. Williams to execute an affidavit that she will not offer interior design services through her firm until properly licensed. If Ms. Williams fails to return the affidavit, an administrative complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Interiors by Venus Williams - hmmm - maybe Florida IS right about this one!
It's a good thing I don't live in Florida. I would not be a licensed interior designer, and would be unable to advertise or call myself an interior designer while doing work for clients like this:
Living room in a client's house.
or this:
Bedroom in a client's house. Farrow and Ball Wallpaper, Chelsea Editions fabrics, Antique chairs from Tara Shaw, Antique mirror from Area, Curtains by Custom Creations by Monica.
Below are more interesting cases brought against Florida interior designers. Not all are famous - but all are talented, hard working people whom ASID wants out of business. Beware!!!
Norwalk – The Furniture Idea
Parker C. Kuldau II
Case No. 2007-037517
Probable cause was found that Norwalk – The Furniture Idea of Jacksonville, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and is offering interior design services in magazine advertisements. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist from offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Kuldau sign an affidavit stating the advertisement has been changed to delete all references to interior design. If Mr. Kuldau fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Kreiss Collection
Case No. 2004-002015
Probable cause was found that Kreiss Collection of West Palm Beach, Florida is not licensed and is offering interior design services in an advertisement and on its webpage. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist was issued along with a request that Loren Kreiss sign an affidavit stating she will refrain from offering interior design services through Kreiss Collection unless it becomes properly licensed. If Ms. Kreiss fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Interiors by Decorating Den
Melissa and Eric Johnson
Case No. 2006-051229
Probable Cause was found that Interiors by Decorating Den of Dunnellon, Florida is not licensed to practice interior design and is listed under the interior design section in the Ocala yellow pages. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Johnson sign an affidavit stating the firm will refrain from offering interior design services and the advertisement will be changed to delete any references to such services. If Ms. Johnson fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Patty Castillo
Case No. 2005-047653
The Florida Board of Architecture and Interior Design agreed to enter a final order imposing a fine of $10,000.00 plus costs against Patty Castillo of Pembroke Pines , Florida . Ms. Castillo was offering “Professional Interior Design Services” in an advertising flyer.
Millie Becker
Case No. 2004-038448
Probable Cause was found that Millie Becker of Boca Raton, Florida is not licensed in the State of Florida but holds herself out as an interior designer on her business card. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist was issued, along with the request that Ms. Becker sign an affidavit stating she will refrain from offering interior design services and will change her business card deleting any references to interior design or words to that effect. If Ms. Becker fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Jenny Cocanougher
Case No. 2003-050487
The Florida Board of Architecture and Interior Design ruled to enter a final order imposing a $10,000.00 fine and costs of $318.00 against Jenny Cocanougher. The complaint alleged that Respondent was previously a licensed interior designer but her license was placed in a null and void status for failing to renew. Ms. Cocanougher's business card and resume held her out as an interior designer and she contracted to provide interior design services.
Rick Argov and Interior Design Center
Case Numbers 2003-002640 and 2003-001382
Rami Argov and Interior Design Center
Case Numbers 2003-002389 and 2003-050456
Uri Gavish and Interior Design Center
Case No. 2003-002387
The Florida Board of Architecture and Interior Design announces that on October 30, 2003, a final order was entered imposing a fine of $15,000.00 against the Deerfield Beach design firm Interior Design Center and its principals, Rick Argov, Rami Argov, and Uri Gavish.
The firm and its principals were holding themselves out as interior designers and offering interior design services without a license. The firm also contracted to perform interior designs services.
After reviewing the evidence that showed the firm brochure and individual business cards offered interior design services, along with the numerous contracts for interior design services, the Board entered a final order imposing a fine of $15,000.00.
The Board is charged with enforcing the laws and rules regarding the practice of architecture and interior design, and to protect the health, safety and welfare of Florida's citizens.

To the person living in Miami Florida that was on this blog for hours today, leaving comments, leaving threats to Kristi - I have your address and if you leave another threat here, I am going to give your address to the Miami police department. do I make myself clear? Do not come back and leave another threat here. I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE.
ReplyDeleteCristie,
ReplyDeleteMy point is that you have become to infelicitous on this issue, hence, spending too much of your valuable time and energy trying to abate the imposible. In the process you are dwindleing yourself from great oportunities for carrer advancement. The doors are open for you in this beaurtiful country for you to indulge. You seem to have lots of strengh and and exuding talent which would naturally reclude competetion. Keep on going, do not fail.
God grant me the serenity
ReplyDeleteto accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.
Hi Jony,
ReplyDeletePlease note that no threats have been made to Cristie in any way or form. Comments posted by me have been in response to her debatable issues. Naturally, based on the found article in mention, it is ovbious that she is acting in poor judgement. One of the great gifts blogs provide is the freedom of clean expression. I beliebe I have. Your police academy "stuff" is frivolous.
I love you site and I have strongly reccomended to friends and colleagues because it allows freedom of speach, arguably.
Warm regards to you and your family. Keep the good work.
ps/please don't block me, Please.
E:thanks for the comment - I really appreciate it. Let's call a truce ok? kristi works really hard answering all the posts here and most are very seriously written. Feel free to argue and state your case, but be polite and don't threaten her - ok!!? I do monitor the site and it tells me who everyone is and where they are from - anonymous or not.
ReplyDeleteThanks again and let's start over on a more friendly tone on both sides!!!
Joni
BOARD OF ARCHITECTURE AND INTERIOR DESIGN
ReplyDeleteProbable Cause Panel MeetingJune 27 , 2008I. Unlicensed Cases
A&M Architectural Design, P.A.
Ana M. Mashraghi
Case No. 2008-009674
Probable cause was found that A & M Architectural Design, P.A. of Wellington, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture in Florida and is doing business as an architectural firm. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering architectural services was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Mashraghi sign an affidavit stating she has changed her advertisements and will not offer such services in the future. If Ms. Mashraghi fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
A.D.S. Designs, LLC.
Amy D. Steedley
Case No. 2008-021405
Probable cause was found that Amy D. Steedley, A.D.S. Designs, LLC of Palm Coast, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and is holding herself out as an interior designer in the AT&T Yellow Pages under the category Interior Designers. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Steedley sign an affidavit stating she has changed her advertisements and will not offer such services in the future. If Ms. Steedley fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Henry Almanzar
Concepts & Designs
Case No. 2007-066641
Probable cause was found that Henry Almanzar, Concepts & Designs of Miami Shores, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture or interior design in Florida and contracted to provide architectural services for a residential project. Mr. Almanzar held himself out as an architect and interior designer. Further, Mr. Almanzar is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed and a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist will be issued.
Antoine Testard Design
Antoine Testard
Case No. 2008-011166
Probable cause was found that Antoine Testard Design of Naples, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture in Florida and has offered architectural services in print advertising. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering architectural services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Testard sign an affidavit stating he has changed his advertisements and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Testard fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Architropolis Corporation
Michael Czysz
Case No. 2008-016090
Probable cause was found that Architropolis Corporation of Portland, Oregon, is not licensed to practice architecture or interior design in Florida and continued to provide architectural services for two Miami Beach hotels. Architropolis is registered as a corporation in Oregon but is not licensed in any discipline. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed and a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist will be issued.
Architectural Art of NW Florida, Inc.
Rod Dent
Case No. 2008-009186
Probable cause was found that Architectural Art of NW Florida, Inc. of Fort Walton Beach, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture in Florida and the company website is offering architectural illustrations and renderings. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering architectural services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Dent sign an affidavit stating he has changed his website and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Dent fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Roland Baker
Nitromik Architectural & Engineering Drafting
Case No. 2007-068201
Probable cause was found that Roland Baker and Nitromilk Architectural & Engineering Drafting, of Miami, Florida, are not licensed to practice architecture in Florida and provided architectural services for a residential project. Further, Mr. Baker is offering these services through a corporation without a certificate of authorization. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed and a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist will be issued.
Blue Sky Environmental, Inc.
Barbara L. Murtagh-Nash
Case No. 2008-003534
Probable cause was found that Blue Sky Environmental, Inc. of Coral Springs, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and placed an advertisement offering interior design and referring readers to a website which states “Blue Sky is a full service interior design firm offering a wide range of interior design services”. This is a second offense. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed and a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist will be issued.
Boca Grande Design, Inc.
Daniel P. Magill
Case No. 2008-003474
Probable cause was found that Boca Grande Design, Inc. of Boca Grande, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida. In the January 2008 edition of the Harbor Design Magazine and company website, Boca Grande Design, Inc. offers full service interior design. Further, Mr. Magill is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Magill sign an affidavit stating he has changed his advertisements and website and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Magill fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Cherry Hill Custom Interiors
Cherry L. Hill
Case No. 2008-020482
Probable cause was found that Cherry Hill Custom Interiors of South Daytona, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and the company website offers interior design services. Further, Ms. Hill is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Hill sign an affidavit stating she has changed her website and will not offer such services in the future. If Ms. Hill fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Colette Design Studio
Jurgen Muller
Case No. 2008-009436
Probable cause was found that Colette Design Studio of Boca Raton, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and the company website offers interior design services. Further, Mr. Muller is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Muller sign an affidavit stating he has changed his website and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Muller fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Crawford Hill Interior Design, Inc.
Retha Crawford
Case No. 2007-065760
Probable cause was found that Crawford Hill Interior Design, Inc. of Plant City, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and the company uses the words interior design in its name. Further, Ms. Crawford is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Crawford sign an affidavit stating she has changed her business name and will not offer such services in the future. If Ms. Crawford fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Mark Dalton
Case No. 2008-021052
Probable cause was found that Mark Dalton of Sarasota, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and Mr. Dalton offered interior design services in a newspaper advertisement. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Dalton sign an affidavit stating he has changed his advertisements and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Dalton fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Drapes 2 NV, Inc.
Jose W. Castaneda
Case No. 2007-064996
Probable cause was found that Drapes 2 NV, Inc., Jose W. Castaneda, of Medley, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior in Florida and is advertising under the heading of interior designers. Further, Mr. Castaneda is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed and a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist will be issued.
Eco-Spaces, LLC.
Robyn A. Rocco
Case No. 2008-003736
Probable cause was found that Eco-Spaces, LLC of Lehigh Acres, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and the company website offers interior design services and commercial design services. Further, Ms. Rocco is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Rocco sign an affidavit stating she has changed her website and will not offer such services in the future. If Ms. Rocco fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Fabric Design Center II, Inc.
David Kramer
Case No. 2007-064818
Probable cause was found that Fabric Design Center II, Inc. of Boca Raton, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida. A print advertisement was published under the heading of interior designers. Further, Mr. Kramer is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed and a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist will be issued.
Ramon A. Gaviria
Case No. 2008-007891
Probable cause was found that Ramon A. Gaviriaof Miami, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture in Florida and entered into a verbal agreement to design a home addition. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed and a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist will be issued.
KMH Design, Inc.
Kathleen Hines Franza
Case No. 2008-001760
Probable cause was found that KMH Design, Inc. Jacksonville, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and is doing business as an interior designer. KMH Design, Inc. is listed in a business journal and on the website as an interior design firm. A Notice to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Franza sign an affidavit stating she has changed all advertisements and will no longer offer such services. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Kristi Lei Interiors, Inc.
Kristi Lei Bryan
Case No. 2008-007531
Probable cause was found that Kristi Lei Interiors, Inc. of Juno Beach, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and the company website offers commercial design services which include “space planning” and the ad offers “residential, yacht and commercial” design services. Further, Ms. Bryan is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Bryan sign an affidavit stating she has changed her website and print ads and will not offer such services in the future. If Ms. Bryan fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
K. Salowe & Co.
Kenneth A. Salowe
Case No. 2008-006580
Probable cause was found that K. Salowe & Co. of Plantation, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture in Florida and has offered architectural services in print advertising and on the company website. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering architectural services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Salowe sign an affidavit stating he has changed his advertisements and website and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Salowe fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
LJQ Design
Lisa J. Querheim
Case No. 2008-011202
Probable cause was found that LJQ Design of Bonita Springs, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and a printed ad and the company website offers interior design services. Further, Ms. Quernheim is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Quernheim sign an affidavit stating she has changed her website and will not offer such services in the future. If Ms. Quernheim fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Palm Coast Development Of Vero Beach, Inc.
Robert C. McNally
Case No. 2008-009741
Probable cause was found that Palm Coast Development of Vero Beach, Inc. of Vero Beach, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture or interior design in Florida and has offered architectural services and interior design services in print advertising and on the company website. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering architectural services and interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. McNally sign an affidavit stating he has changed his advertisements and website and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. McNally fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Ronald A. Popkin
New Horizons
Case No. 2008-020932
Probable cause was found that Ronald A. Popkin and New Horizons of Clermont, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture or interior design in Florida and has offered architectural services and interior design services in print advertising and on the company website. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering architectural services and interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Popkin sign an affidavit stating he has changed his advertisements and website and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Popkin fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Rebekah Pariz
Rebekah Pariz Interior / Architecture Design, Inc.
Case No. 2008-006592
Probable cause was found that Rebekah Pariz of Coral Gables, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture in Florida and contracted to provide architectural drawings and construction services for a residential addition. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Servex-US, Inc.
Nicolas Fernandez
Case No. 2008-011432
Probable cause was found that Servex-US, Inc., Nicolas Fernandez, of New York, New York, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and is holding himself out as an interior designer. An Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed and a Notice and Order to Cease and Desist will be issued.
Suzanne K. Shay
Case No. 2008-020429
Probable cause was found that Suzanne K. Shay of Sarasota, Florida, is not licensed to practice interior design in Florida and in a printed brochure offers interior design services. Further, Ms. Shay is offering such services through a business entity without a certificate of authorization. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Ms. Shay sign an affidavit stating she has changed her brochure and will not offer such services in the future. If Ms. Shay fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Silver Sea Homes, Inc.
Horacio Gonzalez
Case No. 2008-009724
Probable cause was found that Silver Sea Homes, Inc. of Altamonte Springs, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture or interior design in Florida and has offered architectural services and interior design services in print advertising and on the company website. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering architectural services and interior design services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Gonzalez sign an affidavit stating he has changed his advertisements and website and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Gonzalez fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Twenty First Century Engineering Corp.
John M. Carroll
Case No. 2008-010545
Probable cause was found that Twenty First Century Engineering Corp. of Vero Beach, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture in Florida and has offered architectural services in print advertising and on the company website. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering architectural services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Carroll sign an affidavit stating he has changed his advertisements and website and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Carroll fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
Weber Design Group, Inc.
William Weber
Case No. 2008-009994
Probable cause was found that Weber Design Group, Inc. of Naples, Florida, is not licensed to practice architecture in Florida and has offered architectural services on the company website and in an International Home Show Exhibitors bio. A Notice and Order to Cease and Desist offering architectural services was issued along with the requirement that Mr. Weber sign an affidavit stating he has changed his printed information and website and will not offer such services in the future. If Mr. Weber fails to return the affidavit, an Administrative Complaint seeking fines will be filed.
II. Licensed Cases
Norman D. Palmer
2008-011343
Probable cause was found that Norman D. Palmer of Gainesville, Florida, is a Florida licensed architect, whose license expired February 28, 2007 and is currently delinquent. Mr. Palmer signed and sealed a set of plans while his license was expired and delinquent. An Administrative Complaint seeking discipline will be filed.
David M. Putnam
David M. Putnam, PA
2007-056623
Probable cause was found that David M. Putnam of Titusville, Florida, is a Florida licensed architect who prematurely drew plans for a commercial building before an engineer was hired to do the site plan. The plans, signed and sealed by Mr. Putnam placed the building the wrong way on the lot and the building had to be reduced in size in order to comply with city requirements. An Administrative Complaint seeking discipline will be filed.
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-GROUP ONE- December 19, 2008
Michael Alin, Executive Director
The American Society of Interior Designers
608 Massachusetts Ave., NE
Washington, D.C., 20002
Dear Mr. Alin:
Over the last several years, we have watched as ASID has recklessly spent our dues and MANDATORY legislative assessments on a failed policy falsely proclaiming to “raise the level of the profession” and to cull what you have decided are the “real designers” from those not following the path you dictate. The legislation you support has requirements so restrictive that most designers would not be able to comply and will therefore be denied the right to practice.
Over and over… we have watched as ASID’s president, members and board repeatedly mislead their own ASID colleagues about the EFFECT of legislation on our right to practice, while currying support from the very designers who would be put out of business by your legislative actions. And we have listened as Allied Members were described as the “Cash Cows” of the organization – too stupid to understand that we were being used to fund our own demise.
Over and over… we have watched as ASID betrayed its own ethics to push its own agenda – an ego-driven agenda that has the potential to destroy more than half of its own membership.
Over and over… we have listened as ASID members said sweetly, “We’re not trying to put you out of business.” [Subtext: as long as you forego your practice to go back to school for at least 2 years, do a supervised internship with an NCIDQ certified designer – if you can find one who also happens to be hiring – and intern from two to five years while being paid virtually nothing; then if you have any money left, pay about $2000 to take step workshops, purchase study materials, and take and pass the NCIDQ test (which is rarely passed on the first attempt), and then prove to the satisfaction of your own competitors that you actually are a designer, and comply with any regulations they happen to write.] But nobody’s trying to put you out of business; after all, there’s grandfathering. And from what we’ve seen of the way “grandfathering” is often written into the legislation, that’s just as bogus a claim as the rest of the pro-legislation argument.
Legislators have told us that representatives (either ASID and/or IIDA members) have misrepresented the content, objectives and design support for their legislation while governors of four states have clearly understood it to be anticompetitive and protective.
In states where practice acts have been enacted, designers have suffered terribly – persecuted for what they have done successfully for years, sustaining huge fines and legal fees for miniscule “infractions” and in some cases, bankrupted and driven out of the state in order to earn a living.
Florida designers bear witness to the travesty of your actions, and we hear more and more from them every day. The disgraceful behavior of Florida ASID members who deliberately work to expose and report their own members, as well as others, and help to put them out of business tells us what we need to know about ASID as an organization and about how legislation really works to
destroy designers’ rights to practice. And Florida is not the only state where this happens or has happened: try Alabama, Texas, New Mexico, Connecticut and others.
There are estimated to be between 200,000 and 400,000 interior designers in practice in the U.S. today. ASID claims membership of only about 20,000 practicing designers, the majority of
whom don’t even care about “raising the level of the profession”. Many are not even aware of your legislative agenda. They just want to practice design successfully as they always have.
We have personally spoken to Allied designers all across the country, and have found the vast majority to be opposed to your actions. As we’ve said before: the only designers who benefit from your tactics are the so-called professional designers who have passed the NCIDQ – and those are few and far between.
You do not represent independent designers as you have claimed, hence the title independent. They don’t want ASID’s interference in their right to practice, and have told us that they resent ASID’s efforts to dictate policy in which they have no say. Even ASID members are not welcome to disagree with your policies as the invitation to the Arkansas conference clearly shows, where attendees were carefully vetted to make sure that there would be no discordant voices.
ASID HAS NO RIGHT AND NO MANDATE TO DICTATE TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DESIGNERS ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTY WHO WILL BE ALLOWED TO PRACTICE AND WHO WILL NOT. YOUR LEGISLATION IS BEING DEFEATED BECAUSE DESIGNERS DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR OBJECTIVES.
It is clear to us that ASID no longer advocates for all of its members. This is illustrated in the make-up of the board which is ponderously commercial, in the membership of your pro-legislation coalitions across the country, where the majority are often commercial designers and in your undue influence in the schools, where students are pushed toward architectural/commercial design and where residential design gets short shrift. Students have told us that ASID has misled them, pushing them into commercial/architectural design on the premise that jobs at the commercial or architectural firms would be awaiting them when they graduate, and that ASID would help them get those jobs.
Even before the economic downturn, commercial jobs were very hard to come by – by ASID’s own statistics, only 15% of the market - and the few students who manage to land those jobs do so without ASID’s promised-but too often undelivered assistance. Many students, unable to secure those jobs have wound up selling commercial furniture and other commercial products. And most residential designers cannot hire them, as designers who have, have told us that they can draft, but cannot do other things that are crucial to residential design.
ASID’s preferential conduct is also apparent in the way Allied Members are treated on the national website’s “Find a Designer” page, where potential clients searching for referrals are offered a choice of “Show Professionals Only” (listed as the default) vs. “Show All Practitioners” which they have to search for [note: this appears to just have been changed]. This is insulting and clearly shows a bias toward “professional” members, which is especially unjustifiable considering that many so-called “Professional” designers have never passed the NCIDQ test and have just been allowed in. Allied Members pay the majority of dues and mandatory legislation fees, are no less professional in their work, and do not deserve a lesser marketing effort than any other members.
Additionally, by promoting its single-entry method as the one true path to design, ASID has created a rift between practicing designers and those who take ASID’s EEE path, with the younger designers evincing rudely worded disrespect for their more experienced elders – a situation which is not conducive to job creation.
Interior Design is a creative field. Yet ASID is determined to legislate creativity out of it by restricting the many paths of entry into the field that have nurtured that creativity and vision for years, producing brilliant designers - down to one path that is engineered to produce – engineers.
In a failing economy such as this, ASID should be using all its resources to support and market designers, not to destroy them through legislation. And make no mistake, we completely understand your actions and your intent.
We are ashamed and deeply disappointed by this organization. We can no longer support a Society that deliberately destroys its own membership and endangers the future of design and designers in its unending desire for power and dominance. And because of your exclusive policies, we know there is no hope of changing the trajectory of your actions.
ASID had a slogan: PROTECTING YOUR RIGHT TO PRACTICE. You are, in fact, subverting your own raison d’etre by deliberately trying to destroy our right to practice. And that is unethical, unconscionable and unacceptable.
And so we are resigning.
Jacqueline Bazaar, #1533586, Pennsylvania
Margaret H. Benson, #1504190, Texas
Gayle Beyer, #1519494, Colorado
Loraine Brown, #1250453, Georgia
Christine Colman, #1534167, Washington
Ellen Fernandez, #1239917, Maryland
Diane Foreman, #61436, Oregon
Debbie Gersh, #1485135, Texas
Noreen Dunn Gottfried, #1502827, Pennsylvania
Carol Gumpert, 1550669, California
Karen K. Hartley, #75601, Georgia
Nancy Hartsing, #1559067, Arizona
Henrietta Heisler, #1859365, Pennsylvania
Elizabeth Kauermann, #97269, Pennsylvania
Nancy Phillips Leroy, #1231856, Pennsylvania
Christie Meehan, #1201627, Pennsylvania
Tonya Morrison, 1487732, Pennsylvania
Jayne Rosen, #78935, Pennsylvania
Rebecca Ruediger, #1250458, Missouri
Carly Sax, #1500172, Illinois
Anne-Marie H. Schimenti, #1504255, Florida
June Shea, #1486996, Virginia
Nadia T. Tanita, #1542001, Hawaii
Terri Temple, #18099, Connecticut
Mary Sue B. Wiedmer, #1215131, Pennsylvania
Resigned earlier this year for the above reasons:
Janice Onsa, Pennsylvania, former Allied Member
Diane Plesset, Oregon CMKBD, CID #5818, C.A.P.S., former ASID
cc: Bruce J. Brigham, President
Board of Directors:
Bruce Goff
Charrisse Johnston
Doug Hartsell
Lisa Henry
Mary G. Knopf
Rachelle Schoessler Lynn
Stephanie Clemons
Sybil J.B. Van Dijs
WOW. I have been struggling with this over the past couple of years as I've started up my interior design business & have been trying to wade through all of the bs. My business is up & running successfully, yet I've run into designers who have told me what I'm doing is "illegal." (Needless to say they are running low on clients in this economy while I am not.)
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I recently enrolled in an ASID approved correspondence course for my associates degree in interior design because the schooling & dimploma I DO have are not considered valid for their standards. I got so freaked out by all the "illegal" talk that I enrolled in this program that I have no time to take. There's this dilemma- shut down the business that's doing so well & feeding the family to focus on school & working under someone else for credit for the NCIDQ??? Or keep going on my own & run the risk of being "illegal" & only being able to call myself an "interior decorator" when what I do is clearly interior design.
Anyway, I'm so glad to have found the links to programs that can help & I joined IDPC last night.
My question is- will it do anything? And what else can we all do together to put a stop to this bs??!! Joni, do you think there would be a way to even repeal the title laws??
Hope to talk to you soon... I know I'm late in joing on this post but I'm really happy to see so many in this fight. The resignation letter above makes it seem possible.
This post was so heartening. I wish I had found it sooner. I'm an allied member of ASID, but I refuse to take the NCIDQ (that's it right?...I'm getting my letters all mixed up). I was not welcomed in El Paso by the local interior "design" community. I was even asked to show my business card to make sure that I do not have "interior design" on it. I have a BBA from the University of St. Thomas and i then went to the Art Institute of Houston in Interior Design. I interned at
ReplyDelete3D/International and with Tim Hamrock Interiors. I have had my own company since 1998 and during that time I officed in a suite with 4 different architectural firms. They were all very comfortable using my design skills on their projects. The whole rabble rousing scare tactics piss me off to no end. Thanks so much for this post. It brightened my day!
Is Obama's new Interior Designer/Interior Decorator for the White House licensed to practice in DC. I think they have a Practice Act.
ReplyDeleteCould he practice in Florida?
I can't tell from his bio if he has a degree and passed NCIDQ or if he just "studied" Interior Design.
Alabama recently changed certain aspects of the interior design law, apparently to address the "unconstitutional" ruling from a few years back. Alabama had reverted back to its title law after that ruling. With revised legislation enacted over the summer of 2008, the practice law is, regrettably, back.
ReplyDeleteThe most significant change that I have been able to find is this paragraph which is found under "exemptions."
"(j) Any individual engaged in the performance of
consultation or services pursuant to selling, selecting, or
assisting in selecting personal property or fixtures, such as,
but not limited to, furnishings, decorative accessories or
materials, furniture, paint, wall coverings, window treatments,
floor coverings, or surface mounted lighting pursuant to a
consultation or retail sale; installing or coordinating
installation as part of the prospective retail sale or
consultation; or providing drawings for the purpose of retail
sales or consultation, provided those drawings are for
placements or materials lists. Nothing shall prohibit any person
from charging a fee for such services whether or not a
consultation or retail sale is consummated.
Author: Alabama State Board of Registration for Interior Design
Statutory Authority: Code of Ala. 1975, §3415B9.
History: New Rule: Filed May 6, 2002; effective June 10, 2002.
Amended: Filed April 2, 2003; effective May 7, 2003. Repealed
and New Rule: Filed September 15, 2008; effective
October 20, 2008.
This is actually quite significant. The old law had literally put very talented people out of business. They apparently are now able to charge hourly for their services as long as they do not call themselves "interior designer" or a long list of similar titles. The law does not specifically state this, but apparently the title "interior decorator" can now be used.
Although registered, I was unaware of the new legislation until I recently looked up "State of Alabama Board of Registration for Interior Designers" online. I am still very confused by what I have read.
I am a licensed Interior Designer in Alabama. I wrote out this hugely long comment, then decided to spare you all and just post it on my OWN blog. I am intrigued and educated by this post and all the comments. Thank you Joni for bringing light to this issue!!! If you feel compelled, you can read my comment on my blog: http://natalieroe.blogspot.com/2009/01/idpc-vs-asid.html
ReplyDeleteThanks again and, Joni - LOVE your blog!!!
I am a licensed Interior Designer in Alabama. I wrote out this hugely long comment, then decided to spare you all and just post it on my OWN blog. I am intrigued and educated by this post and all the comments. Thank you Joni for bringing light to this issue!!! If you feel compelled, you can read my comment on my blog: http://natalieroe.blogspot.com/2009/01/idpc-vs-asid.html
ReplyDeleteThanks again and, Joni - LOVE your blog!!!
This is an outrage!!!
ReplyDeleteIf you are an interior designer doing construction documents, I think yes you need to be licensed or practicing with/under an architect, but if you are just "decorating" who cares. But I will admit if you are a "decorator" who doesn't know building codes, universal design, and accurate specifications such as type II wallcoverings, I do believe you shouldn't do hospitals, hospitality or contract design. Sorry, I don't want to die because I a decorator picked the wrong wallcovering at my hotel & due to poor space planning I couldn't wheel my handicapped grandmother down the corridor to get out. I think this law is good for newbie decorators, but for decorators who have extensive years experience than I (2 years commercial design @ architecture firm) I think that they should not have to get licensed. But, I think this is great on the commercial side because it is an issue of public safety.....Let's be honest the young lady who sales furniture at Thomasville has a great design sense but should not be allowed to get a contract to do the local boutique hotel, she simply doesn't have either the knowledge or experience to do what needs to be done. At the end of the day if an architect has to be licensed.....so should I, same work essentially. But just like they can win/bid on projects in other states other than where they are licensed....so should I.
ReplyDeleteI live in this wonderful state of F-L-O-R-I-D-A (after 10 years in Newport, RI) and here are my two cents.....heaven forbid that anyone with exquisite taste pretend that they are an interior designer! Have you seen the grandly hideous, over sized/scaled, nouveau-riche, over-the-top (I'm out of horrific adjectives) decorating that is so prevalent here....perpetuated by many of the "licensed" designers upon their ignorant clients. My motto...less is always more!
ReplyDeleteThere is HUGE news from the state that had the first title act and later the first practice act. Newly proposed legislation in Alabama gives up the idea that the titles "interior designer" or "designer" can be protected in any way. It allows ALL to continue practicing their profession, regardless of specialty.
ReplyDeleteInstead, there will be a new term "licensed interior designer." This gives recognition to those who have academic credentials and who have also successfully taken the NCIDQ test. If the legislation passes, perhaps it will serve as a practical and sensible model for other states who have implemented or are considering practice laws.
DON’T YOU BELIEVE IT FOR ONE SECOND!
ReplyDeleteThe NEW Alabama legislation is ANOTHER PRACTICE ACT!
As we previously reported, the Alabama State Board of Registration for Interior Designers tried a back-door -- and we believe illegal -- attempt to reinstate the unconstitutional practice act by simply amending the language and not going through the appropriate legislative process. And it might have worked, if IDPC, ADAD, IJ and NKBA had not thoroughly exposed and thwarted their under-the-radar tactics.
So now they have introduced a new practice act in the Senate (SB 344) and in the House (HB 491), and allegedly they are going to try and ram it through both houses within the next two weeks.
This even more restrictive and confusing practice act is mislabeled as the Alabama Interior Design Consumer Protection Act, when in fact, the only people protected by this act are the 262 licensed interior designers in the state who will be protected from YOU and your [superior] design abilities.
Further, contrary to mikkrikk’s assertion, it is NOT the responsibility of the state government to “give recognition to those who have academic credentials and who have also successfully taken the NCIDQ test.” The legislature should not regulate occupations for the sole purpose of providing state-sanctioned marketing advantages for some in a profession while placing the rest at an unfair competitive disadvantage. They should consider adoption of a new law only if the public health, safety of welfare compels it, which in this case, it clearly does not.
Not a shred of evidence has ever been presented to warrant a conclusion that the unregulated practice of interior design places the public in any form of jeopardy.
In fact, 12 government agencies have looked into this issue and concluded that interior design licensing does nothing to protect the public beyond the processes already in place. The list of all 12 reports and links can be found at: http://www.idpcinfo.org/Govt-Reports.html
Advice to mikkrikk: DO NOT EVER look to the government to validate you in any way. The state cannot confer dignity upon anyone. You are the ONLY one who can validate your worth and your existence. Your dignity comes from within NOT from outside yourself. We continually hear from ASID that they want to have our profession (and their organization) “validated” by the government so that they have the “professional dignity” they need when they meet prospects, clients, architects and builders in the marketplace. Your dignity comes from within and respect for your profession is earned on the merit of work produced.
IF THESE BILLS PASS, YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO PRACTICE AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE PREVIOUS PRACTICE ACT WAS DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
Please click on the link below (or copy and paste it into your web browser) to access the actual bills, read more summaries and details on how this bill will HURT you, and instructions on what you can do to STOP it.
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs060/1102107213116/archive/1102461581716.html
ACT NOW! PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS AND YOUR LIVELIHOOD!
Patti Morrow
Executive Director
IDPC
Now I am REALLY confused! I was sent an email with reference to the new proposed Alabama law and some bullet points that said specifically the things that I mentioned in the earlier post. I had thought this originated from the State Board but apparently it is from another organization. I will look into this more.
ReplyDelete(By the way, I don't look to the state for validation, I am registered because I have to be. I am very much opposed to the kind of practice legislation that puts talented friends out of business and so I was excited to read that this was going to end; sorry if I "jumped the gun.")
I have now read the proposed Alabama legislation and I do not see anything whatsoever that supports the assertions of the previous poster who states:
ReplyDelete"IF THESE BILLS PASS, YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO PRACTICE AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE PREVIOUS PRACTICE ACT WAS DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL!" The poster also references a web site that is even more misleading regarding the true aspects of the Alabama legislation.
On the contrary, the legislation is specifically establishing a separate professional description of "licensed interior designer." It also reserves the use of "registered interior designer" to those who have completed the educational and testing requirements.
The bill does not restrict the use of the titles "interior designer" or "designer." It does not prevent anyone from practicing interior design or drawing anything because the original title and practice laws are repealed with the new legislation.
In fact, the existing Architects' legislation allows ANYONE to draw and submit to code officials any single family residential (or farm) construction drawing whether it involves structural elements or does not.
Therefore, I am unable to see how the bill, taken with the Architect's legislation, prevents anyone from performing any task of interior design in Alabama. If I am missing something please bring this to my attention.
Mikkrikk, what you are missing is the irrefutable fact that there is NO REASON to restrict non-NCIDQ designers from practicing any scope of interior design in Alabama or any state. Did you take the time and my recommendation to read the 12 government reports, all of which recommended AGAINST regulation of interior design? Did you happen to read their logical, empirical reasoning? No, I thought not. http://www.idpcinfo.org/Govt-Reports.html
ReplyDeleteAs far as restricting the title, I will repeat myself because you obviously didn’t understand it the first time. It is NOT the responsibility of the state government to “reserve the use of "registered interior designer" to those who have completed the educational and testing requirements,” as you stated. The legislature should not regulate occupations for the sole purpose of providing state-sanctioned marketing advantages for some in a profession while placing the rest at an unfair competitive disadvantage. They should consider adoption of a new law ONLY if the public health, safety of welfare compels it, which in this case, it clearly does not. Designers should compete based on the merit of work produced, as they have for decades with no harm to the public.
The true intent of the Alabama bill is blatantly obvious – elimination of competition so that only a select few designers can practice. It’s a shame that you can’t or won’t see that. The fact that you are already registered and will be grandfathered speaks volumes, at least to me.
This bill will absolutely negatively impact any non-NCIDQ designer. In today’s difficult economic climate, the state government should undertake no act which would make it more difficult for its citizens to compete.
I don’t have time for endless blogging, so this will be my last comment on this topic. This bill has been reviewed by approximately a half dozen attorneys who have all concluded that it is the most poorly written bill they’ve every seen, is even more UNCONSTITUTIONAL than the first AL practice, and WILL prohibit the majority of designers in AL from practicing.
WAKE UP DESIGNERS! If you do not take action now, elitist insiders in EVERY STATE are going to take away the business you’ve worked so hard for. Join our crusade to protect YOUR rights and YOUR livelihood. www.IDPCinfo.org. Our exciting freedom movement is growing by leaps and bounds – help us make our voice THE voice of the design community. The number of independent designers far outnumber the ASID designers. It’s just a matter of organizing into one powerful voice. It’s up to YOU.
Patti Morrow
Executive Director
IDPC
"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself. When one begs the question, the initial assumption of a statement is treated as already proven without any logic to show why the statement is true in the first place.
ReplyDeleteThe writer stated the following: "IF THESE BILLS PASS, YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO PRACTICE AS YOU HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE THE PREVIOUS PRACTICE ACT WAS DECLARED UNCONSTITUTIONAL!"
Nothing has supported this statement. Instead, the writer tells us about how such a bill simply is not needed. Sorry, you lost me when you made a blatant warning that I would not be able to practice interior design in the State of Alabama if I am not able to fulfill certain qualifications. There is no evidence whatsoever that this statement is true. Consequently I assume the other assertions to be self-serving.
The former Alabama and existing Florida practice acts were/ are wrong because they were implemented in too short of a timetable (instead of 20 years,) failed to adequately grandfather qualified and talented designers, and the enforcement was/is entirely too draconian. That does not make the proposed Alabama law a bad bill. I see nothing whatsoever in this bill that would make it more unconstitutional than previous legislation nor anything that supports the statement "WILL prohibit the majority of designers in AL from practicing."
The bill may not be perfectly written, but it is indeed a compromise in that it provides a level of professionalism for those who have received a degree in interior design and have successfully taken the NCIDQ test. At the same time, it does not prevent anyone from calling themselves "interior designer" nor does it prohibit anyone from performing any interior design task that they are currently allowed to do whether with or without registration credentials.
I certainly understand the need to closely watch proposed legislation pertaining to interior professions, but those who do so should be very careful not to "beg the question." It does nothing for credibility.
People, Get a grip and stand up and be counted as true Inteior Designers who are trained educacated proffessionals and are not simply "decorating".
ReplyDeleteIf you think you are good, pass the test and then you may seperate teh true proffessionals. This is just like everything elese where testing, education and training seperate the designers from the wannabee's.
I am against legislating interior design in any form. I am not a member of ASID or IIDA. I am however a professional, NCIDQ certified interior designer. When the angry decorators claim an inalienable right to the domain of interior design I get angry too.
ReplyDeleteCan any one of you angry decorators answer these simple questions?
Do you consider yourself a professional?
If so what is the profession?
By what standards do you validate your inclusion in the above profession (Hint: you can not make up your own standards)?
Interior Decoration is not Interior Design. No matter how you try to twist the definition to fit your own ignorant perception of it. Placing objects within a space and applying finishes to surfaces is not interior design. It is interior decoration. Now if you are an interior decorator and you insist on calling yourself an interior designer, and your work as interior design, you are ethically challenged. This is an attribute that no amount of legislation or regulation can overcome.
As long as you continue to deprofessionalize the profession I will continue to call you on your professional hallucinations.
Perhaps the most ignorant statement I've read yet:
ReplyDelete"Imagine Maria Buatto or Charlotte Moss or Miles Redd or John Salindino or (pick your favorite Interior Designer here) not being able to advertise or work as an interior designer because he is not versed in hospital or daycare fabric or wallpaper or proper placement of accessibility bars?"
Personally, I have not claimed my position in this whole battle. However, you seem vastly misinformed. Those who are not aware of proper specification of functionally appropriate fabrics and the CODE SPECIFIED placement of accessibility grab bars are NOT designers. I'm not convinced education is the only way to become a designer but if someone claiming themselves as a professional designer is uneducated in these areas they are a COMPLETE MOCKERY of design and related fields. All the interior photographs you have included are strictly decoration. As a whole no architectural effort has been attempted. All I see is gaudy, unnecessary, mush for the brain decoration.
I'm an interior design student and have not placed myself on either side of the anti-legislation movement but I must say that this is a TERRIBLE attempt at convincing me otherwise.
Caitlin, Caitlin, Caitlin - I'll just chalk up your statement about - let's take Saladino - for instance - to pure youth, ignorance, stupidity, whatever. Do yourself a favor and go to a bookstore and look at Villa by Saladino or his first book and come back and tell me he isn't a designer. Honey, all he DOES is design. All the others you named do is design, not decorate. No architectural effort has been attempted?? Well, my dear, interior designers aren't architects, last I checked. Where did that statement come from? YOu want to be an architect - get your license for that. If JOhn doesn't know where a bar goes on a tub - I have no reason to doubt he can't look it up jiffy quick in a million books you can buy on the market. ok? you don't need 6 years of schooling to look up bar placement. Your fabric statement is even more ridiculous. Designers my dear - don't need to know CODE SPECIFIED placement of grab bars. or signage. It's all a myth you've been served to justify keeping you on a chain for six years, just to maybe pass a test, which most don't. so good luck on that test. I hope you pass and get your money's worth. If you have any REAL talent - you'd be just as successful without the schooling. If you have one-tenth of the TALENT of those designers whose names you MOCKED - you'll do fine. somehow I doubt you have the talent. ANYONE with any grain of talent in their brain would not mock Redd, Salidino, Buatta, or Moss or any of the greats in the interior design business. For that is what they are. Maybe you can't face that, I don't know. "gaudy, unneccessary, mush for the brain decoration" WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd just LOVE to see your portfolio up against those you scoff. I need a good laugh tonight.
ReplyDelete"If you have any REAL talent - you'd be just as successful without the schooling"
ReplyDeleteWendy do you actually believe that? Do you actually believe that to attain professional status education is not necessary? Back when Saladino and Buatta (both of home have schooling in architecture BTW)the profession was still defining itself and it's domain within the building design professions. Things have changed. The profession, as with any dynamic organization, has evolved.
Accept it.
(both of whom have schooling in architecture BTW)
ReplyDeleteFirst, let me start off by saying your heckling is quite a distraction from the point you're trying to make. I invite debate, but the second someone resorts to an Ad Hominem arguement it almost takes me out of the significance of what you're saying in response. Additionally, it's not appreciated and in fact a bit rude.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, level of talent in either of our cases is irrelevant to this conversation at hand. In addition, please don't make blind assumptions about me(possibly taking the NCIDQ) because I had obviously stated, "I'm an interior design student and have not placed myself on either side of the anti-legislation movement..."
Alright, to business!
Talent is subjective and as with anything subjective cannot be tested and not necessarily taught. However, mere talent or creativity does not create an interior designer in a holistic sense. What can be taught and tested is the OBJECTIVE standards of design. IE: effective space planning, proper textile specification, general codes, ADA, construction documents etc. These objective standards are what separates true designers from the rest. Yes, much of this information can be attained through numerous publications. However, mastery knowledge is more respectable and most easily and effectively attained through a cohesive education.
For example: I can thumb through a how-to-manual of my car if the engine won't start and likely figure it out after much frustration and wasted time. But a mechanic, who has likely been to trade school could diagnose the problem in no time. Why? The mechanic has mastery knowledge of the workings of a car. Yes, this same knowledge can be attained in other ways however when it's condensed and taught by those who know it's much more effective for said mechanic and myself.
Concerning your statement of "Well, my dear, interior designers aren't architects, last I checked." Clearly, interior designers aren't architects however, true designers are capable of conceiving AND implementing structural changes which, in my opinion, separates design from decoration.
"If you have any REAL talent - you'd be just as successful without the schooling"
TALENT is not the the crux at which design vs. decoration sits. A bit of talent is required to decorate, yes. And within the realm of design decoration certainly has it's place. So, if one is looking to garner clients who respect talent only...no problem with that. But there are others who possess more than talent, they possess technical knowledge and a moral philosophy that spans MUCH greater than the current fashion driven HGTV, DIY, fun with color misnomer true interior design has been forced to embody as of late.
Whew! Sorry for the novel. I really am interested in a meaningful discussion. We all have points to make and they're probably best made in a civil forum.
Caitlin - you came on my blog and said this:
ReplyDeleteAll the interior photographs you have included are strictly decoration. As a whole no architectural effort has been attempted. All I see is gaudy, unnecessary, mush for the brain decoration.
I find that offensive and rude to say the least. It's hard to have a real discussion with someone who comes to your house and is rude. Whatever.
Interior designers are not architects, they just aren't and never will be. Yet, the ASID is pushing for this - they are trying to get the power to sign off on plans and it's just not going to happen. By doing this they have aliented the architectural community who is now against the licensing push by ASID. ASID needs friends at this point. They have lost the kitchen and bath people, the architects, the engineers, the lawmakers.
I just disagree with your disregard for talent. Yes, you can teach all around talent, but you can't teach talent and I just think that talent is what separates the great from the mediocre. And in my opinion, most of what I see coming out of ASID designers is mediocrity. I'm sorry - I just do. Their portfolios are just not inspiring at all imo. In Houston - the few decorators who are accredited to take on students for internships - omg - they are such non talents. Talk about mush brain designing. Phew. The talented designers in Houston - they aren't allowed or qualified to take on interns as judged by ASID.
It's just not rocket science. Yes - I agree hospital design, hospitality design, commercial - yes - it does take a much greater knowledge - who knows, maybe that's why commerical design is so typically boring and unaesthically pleasing.
You can dismiss talent, that's fine. I just don't agree with you. I see what is ASID sanctioned and what is not and most of it is mediocrity.
I hear from all these students and it's like they can't stand that someone who hasn't gone through the six year program and ended with up with a passed test can be successful and produce fabulous work. It's almost like a jealousy.
This argument on this blog is about ASID and what they are doing in the states right now. And right now, they are losing and badly. They want to drive people out of business that don't follow their guidelines, but you see - they have very very very small numbers compared to those who aren't ASID. The great majority - I think its like 92% of interior designers in the US aren't ASID. We didn't elect them to speak for us and we are banding against them.
I suppose you are serious when you say "A bit of talent is required to decorate, yes." I just have to look at that and wonder where are you coming from? "So, if one is looking to garner clients who respect talent only" - please show me a client who hires someone with mediocre talent over someone with true talent. Why would they? And what is "moral philosphy" - what is that about in this discussion?
"fun with color" - design is ALL about color! I don't understand you. Maybe you should become an engineer if you really feel this way. It's like saying color is not important to art.
Look - I have some talent, not a lot. ok? I know that. I can recognize that. That's why I charge what I do. And that's why the Randy Powers of the world charge what they do. Randy and I both probably have the same amount of schooling, maybe I have more I don't know. But he is MORE talented than me. That's why he is on the cover of Elle Decor and not me. And that is why he is on the cover of Elle Decor and not any other ASID designer from Houston. He is fabulously talented and he has the bank account to prove it. People recognize his talent and pay for it. They seek him out. They line up for his services. Why? Becuase he is talented - not because he is technically knowledgable. I chose him because he is from Houston - but I could say the same thing for hundreds of others. It's ALL about talent in the end. That's what separates us - not the fact that someone knows codes. I mean really, it IS!! If you don't have talent, but you go through the ASID sanctioned program, you will work at the back desk drafting for someone who has TALENT. You will never be the owner or the one someone hires to lead a job. You will do the grunt work for the talented one. It's all about talent. Successful designers are talented - they didn't learn what they know, they were born with it. They knew when they were five what they wanted to do - like I did - and if they get a job that requires technical knowledge they hire a staff to do that.
If we let ASID have their way - they will put the Randy Powers out of business in the future. They will not let the artistic ones - the truly talented ones - the ones that rebel against structure and schooling - to have the ability to work. We will have armies of techinically fluent, yet minimally talented designers. I can't imagine anything more horrible.
Maybe we are talking about two different things here. I am talking about designing something aesthetically pleasing. Maybe you are talking about something else. I'm just not following your argument. I wonder if you understand where I am coming from at all?
Joni
Very well said, Joni!
ReplyDelete"A bit of talent is required to decorate, yes."
Probably one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen yet in these comments.
Like it or not I am going to jump in here. You have responded to Caitlin in relatively civilized and heartfelt manner and I appreciate allowing us to discuss this issue on your blog (excellent blog BTW). However, to claim that “talent” is the only standard by which you appear to judge and assess one’s right to the domain of interior design obligates me to call you on your delusion and continued state of denial. I can tell you that this discussion is being read by more than you, a few of your decorator friends and a few students. So if you are willing to defend your position and continued effort to deprofessionalize the profession of interior design I would like to ask a few questions.
ReplyDeleteDo you consider yourself to be a member of a profession?
I suspect your answer will be something to the effect “why yes I am a professional interior designer”. You obviously will not answer “whey yes I am a professional interior decorator”. Unfortunately you exist in a state of denial about your chosen profession…or rather occupation. If you insist that you are a professional interior designer I demand* to know;
By what standards do you claim status within the profession?
This is the key question and, like the chink in the Health Safety and Welfare issue that you and your IJ cronies have taken advantage of, I maintain that this is the Achilles heel of the anti-regulation movement. You demand a right to the profession based on completely subjective measurements such as talent, creativity, a flair for color and self promotion while eschewing the very legitimate system that has been established to determine one’s professional status. You essentially want it both ways. You demand (there is that word again) professional status but you feel no obligation morally or ethically to prove that you have earned the right to meet, uphold and advance the basic tenets of the profession. In your world professional status should just happen magically.
Why is “interior decoration” such a scary term?
Before you continue to claim your work as interior design you need to check the definition. Placing objects and selecting surface finishes within an existing interior space is not interior design. 50 years ago…yes it probably was. Times have changed. Fortunately it is a free country and within the realm of professional interior design you are free to claim the title. But that does not mean it is right or ethical.
To cut to the chase here. You and your anti-regulation friends have every right to claim that legislating interior design is wrong. I agree! It is wrong on several levels. However to claim that NCIDQ/CIDA & IDEC are in some sort of collusion with ASID to cartelize the profession of interior design is just plain ignorant and smacks of occupational paranoia. Let me simplify if further.
Legislating Interior design to advance the profession is debatable.
Claiming that education, experience and qualification/examination is not necessary is professional suicide.
*Gee I guess I have a talent for self righteousness.
The system of checks and balances already in place in the United States (which may very slightly between states and cities) is more than sufficient to maintain public safety. To require interior designers to be licensed is overkill.
ReplyDeleteI challenge anyone to give us one confirmed example of a non-licensed interior designer causing injury or death to a client due to lack of knowledge of codes and regulations.
For that to happen would require the other professionals on the job, such as licensed architects, licensed engineers, licensed building contractors, licensed electricians, city officials in the office where the project must be registered and approved, city building inspectors, etc., to turn a blind eye to the glaring mistakes of the unlicensed interior designer. Not only is that incredibly unlikely, but to suggest that that would happen is preposterous.
Kristi said
ReplyDelete"I challenge anyone to give us one confirmed example of a non-licensed interior designer causing injury or death to a client due to lack of knowledge of codes and regulations"
Kudos to the anti-regulation team for their deft twist on the health, safety and welfare issue. Obviously it will be a challenge to find direct cause and effect that names an interior designer and is documented in a court ruling. It is another thing altogether to find documented proof how interior designers actually create safe environments. How designers actually create environments that promote health and expedite healing and most importantly how interior designers create spaces that positively affect the welfare of the end user. Unfortunately our supposed professional organizations (IIDA & your arch enemy ASID) have failed miserably to mount an effective public relations campaign to counter your effort. Throw in the pseudo libertarian tack and you guys have created an effective answer to the current interior design legislation effort.
In my mind you can have that battle. Frankly it is not worth our time. I wish ASID would realize that.
"...designers actually create environments...expedite healing."
ReplyDeleteWow...impressive. Prove you've done that three times, and the Catholic church might make you a saint!
Actually, I would LOVE to see documented cases of that.
OK a cursory surf through the Avery Architectural Index and Informedsign found 4- 3 papers and one presentation. I could spend more time to prove my point but I actually have better things to do than state the obvious.
ReplyDeleteSt. Michael is already taken.
Database Avery Index to Architectural Periodicals
Title Healing by design: therapeutic environments for health care
Author McKahan, Donald.
Source Interior design, 1993 Aug., v.64, n.8, p.108-109,118
ISSN 0020-5508
Related Work McKahan, Donald.
Physical Description computer drawings.
Abstract Edited version of address given during the Fifth Symposium on Healthcare Design, held in Nov. 1992.
Language English
Publication Year 1993
Publication Type Journal article
http://www.informedesign.umn.edu/Rs_detail.aspx?rsId=2588
http://www.informedesign.umn.edu/Rs_detail.aspx?rsId=2452
http://www.informedesign.umn.edu/Rs_detail.aspx?rsId=2016
Maybe we should define "proof" and "facts". These are things that can be shown to be true by use of the scientific method and empirical data. It's the basis of science...and one that we've all learned probably in the sixth or seventh grade.
ReplyDeleteThe first link you gave is a referenced position paper, i.e., the author's opinion. The first line says "More empirical research is needed on how healthcare environments impact health."
I don't have time for this either.
The fact of the matter is that the crux of the licensing argument is safety and welfare of the public. That argument has been shown to be weak at best, and a ridiculous scare tactic of the ASID in reality.
All that remains is "opinions" regarding the superior abilities of licensed designers over non-licensed designers to do miraculous things like create healing environments--claims which cannot be substantiated through empirical data.
I don't have time to read OPINION papers. When you have proof, then I'll be interested.
God - I left a huge comment here that didn't show up?!! hmm.
ReplyDeleteyes, Kristi is right.
ASID has to prove that the public needs to be protected for their safety and welfare from the unregulated interior designers. That is the reasoning behind all regulation - the crux. You can't just say - well we make environments better and patients recover because of our paint colors. Fine. That's great! You have to PROVE that the public has been HARMED by unregulated interior designers. That case can NOT be found. They have looked for years.
As for talent - without talent, you will be regulated to the back room drafting for your career. No client is going to hire an untalented designer who knows codes and can draft. Just won't happen. Ever. That's why talent makes money, why they are successful, why they are on magazine covers - because they get hired. Non talents don't. That's the simple fact. And you can't teach talent. ASID has no right to deny a talented person who wants to design just because they don't want to follow their six year program and/or can't pass a test.
You asked about me - do I consider myself a professional? I don't really know. Do I call myself a designer or decorator. Either one. Doesn't matter to me. My standard is this: I went to school and quit. I didn't graduate. I didn't work in the field for 25 years. I was asked by a friend to design their house. I did it. I started getting hired by word of mouth for my talent. I never have advertised. I have more clients than I want. I have made a lot of money at this during my 10 in business. I have no schooling really. I did it all on my own. I didn't need ASID or UT or anyone else. NOW - saying all that = I am not qualified to design a hospital or a hotel and i know this. No one would hire me to do so. They would hire a team of designers who have people who can draft and are up on codes. That is not me, that is not my company. The state does not need to tell the client not to hire me for a hospitality job. They know that - all they need to do is look at my portfolio.
It isn't rocket science, it's not architecture, it's not engineering despite what ASID wants you believe.
Okay...I took the bait, and just for kicks, I opened up the second link. Let's take a look at these earth-shattering findings of the authors:
ReplyDelete1. intense light and noise may adversely affect infants in a NICU.
2. phased light that mimics the daylight/night cycle may be beneficial.
3. private and semi-private rooms can limit excessive light
4. private and semi-private rooms can limit the number of adults and excessive noise.
5. private and semi-private rooms can minimize the transmission of hospital-borne infections and illnesses.
Do you SERIOUSLY need years of schooling, years of internship, and testing/licensing for this?? Sorry, but this is the most laughable thing I've read. If this information is not common sense, then I would seriously question the ability of the designer to leave his or her home without a padded helmut, much less design a NICU.
This article reminds me of those multi-million dollar government-funded studies to determine ridiculous things, like whether or not worms feel pain when placed on the fishing hook--a complete waste of time and money.
No Kristi my examples are not necessarily revolutionary research...I wanted to go easy on you but if I were to take more than the 2 minutes I took to come up with the 4 examples I could overwhelm your cynical self with in depth study after peer reviewed study that is currently fueling an entirely new aspect of the design profession...evidence based design. Interior Designers, in collaboration with researchers, architects and medical professionals are revolutionizing healthcare design. I know you know what that is and I am sure you see it as just a passing fad or some sort of intellectual folly that professional interior designers use to justify their superiority over decorators. I see it as interior designers using scientific fact and proven results to improve the health and welfare of the public.
ReplyDeleteIf you are so knowledgeable about these issues why are you so concerned with those of us who want to hold ourselves and our profession to a higher standard? And no I am not talking about using government intervention/legislation to do so.
So again what is your excuse for advocating de-professionalization?
P.S. The entire issue of 10/08Contract Magazine is devoted to Healthcare design. I know you know everything about the subject but maybe you could cite some IDPC/IJ propoganda that disproves the value of applying empiracle design focused research as part and parcel of the interior design process for health care facilities and how anybody with talent and a flair for color can legitimately participate in this process.
ReplyDeleteI dare ya.
Mike, please don't for one second think that I'm shrinking away from this argument. I've been incredibly busy...you know, WORKING...but I will be back as soon as I have a free moment to answer your ridiculous, nonsensical claims.
ReplyDeletekristi,
ReplyDeleteI am waiting to be told how my academic endeavors are ridiculous and non-sensical. There are an awful lot of ID students that are also waiting to be set straight by the IDPC/IJ. "Geez Professor why do I have to pay so much tuition to get a degree that the IDPC claims is worthless...wahhh?"
Decorating without a license... what's the harm in that?
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to hiring a designer with experience and skill rather than just
license? It's a visual effect, it's creating an appealing theme and beautiful
interior rather than pure safety measures!
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good point about it being hard for students to find a job under a licensed Interiors Designer, and i agree that by having these laws set into place, as designers we are digging our own grave, but if you don't know how to specify (not pick) the correct flooring / wall covering / upholstery / or window treatments for a hospital / hotel / resturant / or day care, you have absolutly no right designing one of these areas. not only that, but if you are interested in doing commerical design you need to know how /why / and where to place the so called " accessibiligy bar", the ADA guidlines are not stupid rules, its the law, and its in place to make sure that handicap people can move through a space with the same ease as everyone else... i do commerical design and just to let you know it is the designers job not the architect's or the contractors to make sure the design follows these guidlines. Interior design is more than picking out paint and facbric colors, and if thats all you wanna do then you should call yourself a "decorator" As a commericial designer it makes me mad when someone thinks all i do is pick out colors, there is way more to my job then that, and it is people like you all that give them this idea.
ReplyDeleteStill waiting...........
ReplyDeleteI am an ASID Professional, I did the work as recommended 20 years ago by another old school designer/professor. I do not think you need certification to make things pretty... Designers VS Decorators, Architects VS Architectural Designers? Contractors VS Trades Persons? I think Decorator/Designers should start their own organization! Maybe just make all residential design OK to not require a license? Maybe the Building Departments need to have ALL design approved before installed.(not going to happen)
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately even the professional ASID designer can do ugly work. Some never touch the product? Just specify which is really weird to me. What about the architects doing design are they being policed?
Food for thought.
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ReplyDeleteThank you for posting this. When I was in Florida, I decided *not* to jump through all the hoops to call myself an Interior Designer. I didn't like how ASID was behaving and decided I would simply content myself with being a decorator. This regulation is INSANE.
ReplyDeleteGreat news regarding the Florida law. The Institute for Justice has been working on this issue and has obtained a preliminary injunction in Florida regarding the licensing law. This is a link to their web site:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ij.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2869
This is another link to that Institute for Justice regarding a publication of "Designed to Exclude
ReplyDeleteHow Interior Design Insiders Use Government Power
To Exclude Minorities & Burden Consumers"
http://www.ij.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2603&Itemid=249
And I'm sorry...but the description of the ASID as an organization that is a "the movement to secure interior designers' right to practice" made me laugh out loud.
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ReplyDeleteJoni,
ReplyDeleteI'm a little late on this comment but I came across this post and felt compelled to share my opinion as well. I am NCIDQ certified and a professional member of ASID. Personally I think that it is entirely unnecessary! 95% of what I do is residential design and not one of those codes or regulations that I had to beat into my head applies. I completely understand the importance for hospitality, health care and commercial design, regarding fire codes, American Disabilities Act etc. which I have had to use for the little commercial work that I do. I want to be clear that I think that it is important for people that practice this type of design because there is a lot of information that you have to abide by for public use spaces. However, I do not think that residential designers should be required to be licensed! I completely agree with you regarding residential design! When I graduated I decided I was going to get licensed because I thought that it was the next step in my design education, just as I had been encouraged to do by my school. I sat for the exam and got all of my ducks in a row because I got scared that I wasn't going to be able to practice because of the title act...but it is so ridiculous for residential design!
Anyway, I'm basically saying what everyone else has already said, I just thought you might want to hear from a licensed residential designer.
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